Thursday, November 01, 2007

What??

What are the implications of Bill Hybel's admission of doing ministry wrong over the past 30 years regarding "seeker sensitive" and the lack of results in making fully committed disciples?

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Bill is not the only one who can make this admission. I applaud his courage. Even I grieve for being part of this nonsense while pastoring.

6 Comments:

At November 06, 2007 2:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Implication 1: Bill Hybels and company have not been doing the will of God. Or maybe they have, who knows what games God was playing with his pawns.

Based on this track record it would be wise to not look to Bill Hybels for future guidance.

Implication 2: If Bill Hybles has not been doing God's will, whose will has he been following. You have to say he has been in the grip of Satan.

Following Bill Hybles is equivalent being satanically inspired and thus increasing the amount of evil in the world.

Implication 3: Bill Hybles must be stopped before he does further damage.

You can help by forming a vigilante team for God.

Death to Bill Hybles.

 
At November 06, 2007 9:16 AM, Blogger Bob Carder said...

Dave, if you are saying these things in the name of Jesus, this is not how Jesus would respond to Bill Hybels.

I do not agree with any of the implications you mention here.

Tell me more about the god or God you serve. Do you profess to walk with Jesus?

May God protect Bill Hybels from the likes of you and what appears to be ungodly hatred.

You sound like a weirdo or are you just being overly sarcastic?

 
At November 07, 2007 1:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I was taking a polemical line.

But consider: Was Bill Hybels operating within the will of God if he admits he was doing it wrong? You would have to conclude not entirely.

But this problem of knowing God's will applies to all of us. It suggests that we cannot know what the will of God is - the best we can do is look back and conjecture. And the best result from conjecture are conclusions that certain past actions were not in the will of God, we can never be sure if anything is God's will.

I don't want to go to the extreme that nothing can be certain. However, I don't think we can even get to a place of reasonable knowledge of God's will.

Furthermore, there are no clear instructions in the Bible to do so.

 
At November 08, 2007 8:11 AM, Blogger Judy said...

wow...sometimes it's as simple as an awareness of where God is leading..but then doing it on your own power...trying to do the will of God on your own power can be as damaging as doing your own will. Judy

 
At November 09, 2007 3:32 PM, Blogger Bob Carder said...

David, you took my comments very well and I do appreciate your non defensive response.

Tell us more about yourself, your background and your relationship with Jesus. That is unless you don't want to get personal.

 
At November 09, 2007 3:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bible does not talk about a "relationship with Jesus". We are asked to believe.

There seems to be a corruption of the Gospel, predominantly from the US, the misleads with this personal relationship deceit.

But then what do we expect from a country that gifts to the world at large drugs, pornography, war, over indulgence in food, political and economic greed.

By the way, how is that your president cannot win the war in Iraq? Even with all the military might, you are losing.

Why is God not supporting the USA?

 

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